Wednesday, November 27, 2013

Liberals have a different view of Thanksgiving

What kind of view of the family do liberals have that they are urging their followers to take advantage of Thanksgiving get-togethers to propagandize their family with "the talk." When I was growing up, "the talk" was not something that happened at the dinner table and it didn't concern health insurance. It certainly didn't include people downloading talking points from the President's activism website to have that "talk." But times change.

The DCCC also has recommendations for to say for that "crazy Tea Party Relative (or two) who just loves bashing President Obama" that "we all have." My experience is that liberals are much more likely to bring up their political opinions and just assume that everyone agrees with them. Maybe that is because I work with teachers, who trend liberal, and most of the rest of my family beyond my immediate relatives, are Democrats. I tend to not bring up my political beliefs at all unless asked and I try to be pretty low key. I know I'm in the political minority at work and I also don't believe in spouting off about politics in front of students. And I really see such assumptions that every teacher must be liberal when I'm at seminars or symposia of teachers. But time after time, I've heard others make statements that just assume that everyone is on the same page with them. It is as if it doesn't even occur to them that someone they know and work with could hold a different political position. I still remember the horror expressed in the teacher seminar I attend the day after the 1994 elections. It was as if it didn't occur to any of those teachers that there might be a Republican in their midst who was happy about those results.

I shudder to imagine how uncomfortable it would be if I looked at these interactions as opportunities to spout political talking points. But the left looks at such gatherings differently.

Now, as John E at Ace points out, the administration and their supporters are coordinating discussions about Obamacare. John E. Points to similar posts at the Huffington Post, Slate, and the Washington Post about how to counter criticisms they might hear about Obamacare from their "crazy uncle." And they're not the only liberals who see Thanksgiving as a political opportunity to sway minds. Mayor Bloomberg's gun-control group is pushing table placemats to push a message about the need for stricter gun-control laws.

If you really do have deep political divisions within your family, do you truly want to exacerbate those divisions by bring up divisive issues at Thanksgiving dinner?

And do liberals really want to spend the holiday defending how wonderful Obamacare is going to be and how most people are going to be able to keep their plan and their doctors? I wouldn't think they'd want to go there.

If you do happen to encounter any of these determined liberal relatives set to ruin family time with discussions of how awesome Obamacare is going to be one day, here are some counter talking points.

Allahpundit writes,
I like the idea that you, by dint of having donated to Obama and happily swallowed endless lies about keeping your plan and your provider network, are necessarily the “voice of reason” at the dinner table this year. In the unlikely event that you find yourself seated across from one of these benighted schmucks, you can play it three ways: One: Deflect. Change the subject. Bring up “The Walking Dead” or how boring the NFL is this year or whether maybe Orwell had a point about statism’s insidious power to dehumanize people by reducing them to cogs in a government propaganda machine. Two: Engage. Ace has prepared a helpful talking-points memo of his own in case you find yourself at a loss upon being pitched on O-Care by the same arrogant little sh*t who called you ignorant for doubting that the program would work at Thanksgiving dinners past. (If Ezra Klein has any conservative relatives, he or she is about to have the best Thanksgiving ever.) Three: If there are people at the table considering buying a plan on the exchange, wait patiently until they’re done cursing Obama for having forced their insurer to cancel their old coverage and then prepare them for how to shop on the exchange. For starters, don’t believe the prices quoted on

Ace has several points to remind your obnoxious relative of all the lies that Obama and Democrats have spread about what Obamacare would do. He concludes,
6. Remember when you were so confident, arrogant, snotty, sneering, and dismissive about legitimate and informed concerns about Obamacare? You were wrong. And you weren't just wrong on the facts, but you were wrong on a human level. You very nearly screamed your ignorant opinions and shouted down dissent. You sneered at people as ignorant who actually knew more than you did, and you indulged in entirely-unwarranted moral preening about your alleged concern for the poor. Despite the fact that you never do anything to actually aid the poor. Apparently shouting at relatives is your idea of "charity."

Yeah you were wrong. You are wrong.

I know you won't apologize, but at least keep your stupid mouth shut this year and let us all digest in peace.
Timothy Carney has some recommendations how to make conservative arguments that liberals can relate to.
Regulators will ban your organic kale.

Your liberal relatives generally trust government regulations to solve problems. They don’t sweat the costs to the economy as much as you do. Throw in a healthy distrust of Corporate America — often even an unhealthy disdain for it — and progressives (this is what they call themselves these days) end up regarding regulation as a force for good.

You can plant a seed of skepticism about regulators’ ability to do good, though, by pointing to the salad course Trevor brought. The organic, local, sustainable kale in it might be impossible to get after the Obama administration’s food safety rules go into effect.
Jonah Goldberg is struck by the DCCC's advertisement of their mobile app cheat sheet to use with your obnoxious Tea Party relatives.
I love the defensive tone here. While the Democrats are the ones who want Americans to check their iPhones at the Thanksgiving table for the latest instructions from the Ministry of Information, they’re posing as if someone else is to blame for it. If only those crazy Tea Party relatives stayed home, it wouldn’t be necessary for us to create an army of agitprop-spouting drones. It’s the conversational equivalent of the doctrine of preemption. If it weren’t all so comically lame, it would be disturbing.
Exactly. Let's just get together with friends and family and be thankful and happy together.

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving! And eschew the propaganda.