Monday, March 22, 2010

Cruising the Web

And while all eyes are on Washington, let's not ignore the looming crisis back in the states with their public pensions. According to Pew, the states are facing over $1 trillion in unfunded liabilities in their public pensions. If you take out the assumptions for growth that Pew made, the liability is closer to $3 trillion. California alone has a $60 billion unfunded liability.

We're just beginning to find out what these Democrats sold their vote for. That's what happens with any big bill, but in these days of instant news, congressmen won't be able to hide from their constituents the quids and quos of their votes. It will be up to those voters to decide if whatever their representative trade his vote for is worth it to have a bill that the voters don't want in the first place.

Randy Barnett examines whether or not there are constitutional challenges to this bill. The main question is whether or not five justices would have the will to overrule this law.

Megan McArdle explains
why we should worry about the tyranny of the majority. Even if you like the health care bill, just imagine if Republicans decided to utilize the same methods that the Democrats have utilized to pass this bill in order to pass their desired ends. Now that we have a model of how one party can ignore public sentiment and the rules and traditions of both houses in order to ram something through, don't expect that the other party won't utilize those same methods when they get in control.

Victor Davis Hanson says that we've crossed the Rubicon. If the Democrats come to truly believe that they're facing dramatic losses in November, why not use these methods they've pioneered to push through the rest of their unpopular agenda: cap and trade, card check, amnesty?

Howard Kurtz says that journalists were just tired of covering health care reform. It was just too complicated and the story kept changing. Boo hoo.

Michael Goodwin writes
that we've just seen one battle in the larger ideological war in our country over the true role of government.

Some Democrats walked the plank
with their vote. If they are so willing to sacrifice their seats in order to vote for this bill, let's just help them on their way. I'm afraid that those battles are already lost.


ic said...

Megan McArdle, don't worry, there will always be RINOs, such as Graham and McCain, who love to show up on the MSM, to work across the aisle to undermine whatever the Republicans wanted to do. The MSM will scream bloody murder, unprecedented attempt to shred the Constitution.

In other words, the MSM will not be accomplice when the Republicans are in control. To get away with a crime, a criminal needs an accomplice to cover his rear.

ic said...

Victor Hanson: They are going to. A couple of days ago, Obama said he would not rule out using Slaughter Rule for Amnesty. They may lose this election cycle, but when they swarm the next with enough "immigrants", they will return to power sooner than you think.

It's a sight to watch how easily our system crumples when crooks gained power and refused to play by the rules.

One person, one vote, one time. Thank God, we have the 2nd Amendment and the military.

Tacitus Voltaire said...

just imagine if Republicans decided to utilize the same methods that the Democrats have utilized

are you serious?

nothing irregular, or even unusual, took place in the passage of this bill

please, Betsy - lets hear just what "methods" you had in mind here!

Tacitus Voltaire said...

If they are so willing to sacrifice their seats

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. March 19-21, 2010
"As you may know, the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate are trying to pass final legislation that would make major changes in the country's health care system. Based on what you have read or heard about that legislation, do you generally favor it or generally oppose it?" If oppose: "Do you oppose that legislation because you think its approach toward health care is too liberal, or because you think it is not liberal enough?"

Favor: %39
Too Liberal Oppose: %43
Not Liberal Enough: %13

"Who do you trust more to handle major changes in the country's health care system: Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress?"

Barack Obama %51
Republicans %39

"Who do you trust more to handle major changes in the country's health care system: the Democrats in Congress or the Republicans in Congress?"

Democrats in Congress %45
Republicans in Congress %39

Skay said...

Planned Parenthood---

"we were able to keep the Stupak abortion ban out of the final legislation and President Obama did not include the Stupak language in his Executive Order."

Gee--surprise, surprise -- a happy bunch.

Democrat Stupak ran on being "pro life". Looks like he kind of ment it at the time--to get votes.

Obama said a lot of things on the campaign trail that he did not mean either so it is OK for Congressional Democrats to follow that templet. The MSM thinks that is really clever.

I remember one poll(MSM) that had far more Democrats polled than Republicans--so as you can imagine --it turned out really predictable. It was reported as fact of course.

Pat Patterson said...

So basically, aside skipping a few things on the poll, the American public likes Obama but is opposed to what he is doing in regards to healthcare. Illuminating.

Johnman said...

Amnesty is next to replace those voters the Dems threw under the bus. If they can get it done quickly enough (read rammed through,) with ACORN registering these new "citizens" to vote, the Dems won't miss a beat. Then comes Cap and Trade. Once they have run America into the ground, into a financial crater, they will nationalize industry as the only way to get us out of it. Private enterprise will be run out of business. The result will be cradle to grave care that will never be rescinded. Goodbye to liberty and the America we once knew and loved. Maybe it is what we deserve, because obviously we are too ignorant to rule ourselves.

Tacitus Voltaire said...

Favor: %39
Too Liberal Oppose: %43
Not Liberal Enough Oppose: %13

i would say that this results in %42 opposed because they think the bill is too liberal, vs %52 who favor it or wanted it to be more liberal. i don't suppose any of those %13 are going to be voting for GOP candidates. just a guess!

Pat Patterson said...

Leave by the poll die by the poll. Obama has reached a milestone or millstone in that he has dipped to the point where point where more people disapprove then approve of him.

Pat Patterson said...

Live by the poll...yikes! I wonder how many on the left will still claim business as usual when the Republicans use the same parliamentary manuever to remove the non-repeal language and then the rest of the bill through reconciliation?

Tacitus Voltaire said...

Leave by the poll die by the poll

fair enough

Pew Research Center Poll. March 10-14, 2010
democrats approve %31 disapprove %57
republicans approve %25 disapprove %59

AP-GfK Poll conducted by GfK Roper Public Affairs & Media. March 3-8, 2010
democrats approve %36 disapprove %61
republicans approve %30 disapprove %67

is this the republican party that is going to take back the congress this fall?

mark said...

Here's some more fun polling data courtesy of a Harris Poll (posted at The Daily Beast). Clearly, ODS is spreading from the tea*aggers.

67 percent of Republicans (and 40 percent of Americans overall) believe that Obama is a socialist.
The belief that Obama is a “domestic enemy” is widely held—a sign of trouble yet to come.

57 percent of Republicans (32 percent overall) believe that Obama is a Muslim
45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers in their belief that Obama was "not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president"
38 percent of Republicans (20 percent overall) say that Obama is "doing many of the things that Hitler did"
Scariest of all, 24 percent of Republicans (14 percent overall) say that Obama "may be the Antichrist."

Pat Patterson said...

TV conveniently left out that independents have moved to planning on voting for that generic Republican by 50% while only planning to vote for a Democrat by 30%. Add those to the stated party preference and also the number who are likely to vote then Republican prospects are quite good.

Skay said...

"67 percent of Republicans (and 40 percent of Americans overall) believe that Obama is a socialist."

Al Sharpton said on Fox that everyone knew that when they voted for Obama - they knew they were voting for socialism.

Guess he agrees with the Republicans.