Members of Congress calling for an investigation of the enhanced interrogation program should remember that such an investigation can't be a selective review of information, or solely focus on the lawyers who wrote the memos, or the low-level employees who carried out this program. I have asked Mr. Blair to provide me with a list of the dates, locations and names of all members of Congress who attended briefings on enhanced interrogation techniques.Yes, let's remember that in the months after 9/11, members of Congress were perfectly fine with the program. Let's hear from them. The Washington Times reports on those briefings.
Between 2002 and 2006, the top Republicans and Democrats on the House and Senate intelligence committees "each got complete, benchmark briefings on the program," said one of the intelligence sources who is familiar with the briefings.Ask those Democrats about why they didn't try to stop those programs back then if they are now so sure that such interrogations were wrong.
"If Congress wanted to kill this program, all it had to do was withhold funding," said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk about the closed-door briefings.
Those who were briefed included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV of West Virginia and Rep. Jane Harman of California, all Democrats, and Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, Sen. Richard C. Shelby of Alabama and Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, all Republicans.
The Democratic and Republican staff directors for both committees also were briefed, according to the intelligence source and to a declassified memo released Wednesday that detailed some of the Senate committee briefings.
And, of course, if we have hearings today, we should have the full information of what information the CIA gained from these enhanced interrogations. The American people can decide whether they think that these carefully laid out interrogations were indeed torture and whether the information gained made them worthwhile.
Any investigation must include this information as part of a review of those in Congress and the Bush administration who reviewed and supported this program. To get a complete picture of the enhanced interrogation program, a fair investigation will also require that the Obama administration release the memos requested by former Vice President Dick Cheney on the successes of this program.Finally, Hoekstra recommends that we also investigate what damage has been done to our intelligence capabilities by releasing these memos. Who knows if the Republicans in Congress can force those questions once hearings have been held, but if the Democrats are truly concerned about our nation's intelligence capability going forward, these are questions that should be asked.
David Ignatius wrote yesterday in the Washington Post about the effect on the CIA that Obama's release of these memos has had.
Obama seems to think he can have it both ways -- authorizing an unprecedented disclosure of CIA operational methods and at the same time galvanizing a clandestine service whose best days, he told them Monday, are "yet to come." Life doesn't work that way -- even for charismatic politicians. Disclosure of the torture memos may have been necessary, as part of an overdue campaign to change America's image in the world. But nobody should pretend that the disclosures weren't costly to CIA morale and effectiveness.In addition to damaging the morale of CIA agents who must already have had pretty low morale after the intelligence failures of 9/11 and Saddam Hussein's WMD program, there is also the damage to our efforts to protect against further terrorist attacks.
Put yourself in the shoes of the people who were asked to interrogate al-Qaeda prisoners in 2002. One former officer told me he declined the job, not because he thought the program was wrong but because he knew it would blow up. "We all knew the political wind would change eventually," he recalled. Other officers who didn't make that cynical but correct calculation are now "broken and bewildered," says the former operative.
For a taste of what's ahead, recall the chilling effects of past CIA scandals. In 1995, then-Director John Deutch ordered a "scrub" of the agency's assets after revelations of past links to Guatemalan death squads. Officers were told they shouldn't jettison sources who had provided truly valuable intelligence. But the practical message, recalls one former division chief, was: "Don't deal with assets who could pose political risks." A similar signal is being sent now, he warns.
One veteran counterterrorism operative says that agents in the field are already being more careful about using the legal findings that authorize covert action. An example is the so-called "risk of capture" interview that takes place in the first hour after a terrorism suspect is grabbed. This used to be the key window of opportunity, in which the subject was questioned aggressively and his cellphone contacts and "pocket litter" were exploited quickly.I would question Ignatius's assertion that we are better off for the exposure of these memos and whether the interrogation techniques employed can truly be classified as torture. I do know that, for the sake of Obama's moral preening, he has done true damage to our intelligence capabilities in the future.
Now, field officers are more careful. They want guidance from headquarters. They need legal advice. I'm told that in the case of an al-Qaeda suspect seized in Iraq several weeks ago, the CIA didn't even try to interrogate him. The agency handed him over to the U.S. military.
Agency officials also worry about the effect on foreign intelligence services that share secrets with the United States in a process politely known as "liaison." A former official who remains in close touch with key Arab allies such as Egypt and Jordan warns: "There is a growing concern that the risk is too high to do the things with America they've done in the past."
If Obama means what he says about protecting the CIA workforce and its operational edge, he must give up the idea that he can please everyone on this issue. He should recommend limits on any congressional inquiry and resist demands for a special prosecutor. Instead, he should push the White House's preferred alternative -- a commission that can review secret evidence behind closed doors, then report to the nation.
America will be better off, in the long run, for Obama's decision to expose the past practice of torture and ban its future use. But meanwhile, the country is fighting a war, and it needs to take care that the sunlight of exposure doesn't blind its shadow warriors.
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If only we could have a full investigation with all the pertinent evidence considered. Alas, we know that tapes were destroyed and millions of e-mails "lost". This call for transparency after eight years of secrecy rings similar to republicans' cry for fiscal responsiblity after eight years of looking the other way as Bush helped trash our economy.
"full investigations with all pertinent evidence considered" is a fine idea - unless it's for the purpose of political witch hunts to destroy domestic opposition and consolidate power. Criminalizing political differences is a bad path to go down.
Yes, by all means let's see the evidence for actionable intelligence produced by torture (water boarding was torture in WWII when we prosecuted Axis soldiers, and it is torture today when the Bush administration did it, so let's stop pussy-footing around with euphemisms).
Let's see ALL the evidence. All the "leads" produced that actually went nowhere but wasted months of time. All the words spoken by innocent people who were nonetheless tortured.
Lets see it all.
Government use of torture is not like lying about adultery, Equitus.
Use of torture offends decent Americans on every level, and of every party.
If you support the use of torture by the US government, then hand your passport in, and get out of my country right now. Decent Americans still remember how it needs to be.
"...damaging the morale of CIA agents who must already have had pretty low morale after the intelligence failures of 9/11 and Saddam Hussein's WMD program..."
And the "outing" of a CIA agent engaged in WMD work by Dick Cheney's office!
Don't forget how that piece of GOP work must have affected CIA morale.
Cheney's chief of staff was sentenced to prison for lying about his role in that, but unfortunately Bush gave him a get out of jail free pass.
Pres Obama has actually managed the impossible, blame the previous administration for all the intelligence blunders and then immunize all the people that actually carried out these missions. It's as if during the initial stages of the Chinese attacks during the Korean War when the 24th Infantry Regiment broke and ran the US Army decided not to punish any of the enlisted men but only the headquarters staff.
It's more as if the public debate is whether or not to hold accountable the monsters in US government who issued policies ordering torture.
I say we hold them accountable. Just to make it harder for this to happen next time the GOP gets in office in two or three generations time.
Adding to the immorality and perversity of Cheney/Bush, it now appears that torture wasn't conducted as a misguided tool in the war on terror, but rather to create a justification to invade Iraq.
So I see its pretty unanimous that Pelosi, Harman and Rockefeller must be added to the list, which shrank just yesterday as per AG Holder, and should also be indicted for knowing and approving this type of questioning of only three men.
Yes, Pat, if Democratic politicians colluded in the Bush/GOP establishment of torture, they should be exposed and punished too.
Now how about that admission that it was wrong for the Bush administration to use torture?
Ronald Reagan signed the U.N. Convention against Torture, and said "The core provisions of the Convention establish a regime for international cooperation in the criminal prosecution of torturers relying on so-called 'universal jurisdiction.' Each State Party is required either to prosecute torturers who are found in its territory or to extradite them to other countries for prosecution."
If Jane Harman, Nancy Pelosi, or other democrats knew about this and ok’d it, they are just as culpable as the Bush and GOP supporters who approved the use of torture on prisoners.
And the democrats should be identified and punished just as all the complicit republicans should be.
It's amusing that you don't understand this liberal viewpoint, and project a partisan bias.
The problem keeps coming back to this disagreement over what is torture. Article 1 of the UN Convention speaks of severe mistreatment or injury not just stress. Plus the UN Convention, though signed has never been ratified by the US Congress by either Democrat and Republican majorities.
I don't classify waterboarding, as described, as torture and under the confusing and contrdictory guidelines nor do I think its use was illegal.
It doesn't really matter how *you* classify waterboarding, Pat.
The US government has prosecuted and punished people who have waterboarded in the past, including a law enforcement official in Texas, and our own soldiers. The rest of the world sees the application of suffocation by drowning as torture.
It is sickening to think that I have lived with a government so evil that it tortures its prisoners. It is even worse that there are so many apologists for it.
I'm also sure that one day you'll be just as sickened to learn that those little pieces of lead discharged from guns and rifles actually hurt people.
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