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Thursday, February 26, 2009

I guess the Obama economists missed that opening day lesson on incentives

One of the most basic lessons in economics is that people respond to incentives. They will adapt their behavior according to the incentives. But apparently, the people putting together Obama's budget writers missed that day's class in Economics 101.

In keeping with Obama's campaign promises not to tax the middle class, he's hoping to gain the money he needs for all his spending goals by increasing taxes on the wealthy. And they're looking to whatever they can increase to get more money from those higher earners. Here is one example.
About half of the money that Obama wants to raise for a healthcare overhaul would be generated through changes in the way that the wealthiest Americans itemize deductions for charitable donations, state taxes or interest payments on a home.

Under the president's proposal, joint filers making more than $250,000 a year would only recoup 28% of the value of qualified deductions, rather than higher percentages laid out under current law.

That could mean a couple in the 35% tax bracket who once could have recouped $3,500 of a $10,000 donation to a charity would now recoup only $2,800.

The White House estimates the change would generate about $318 billion over 10 years.
Maybe some of the old-timers around the Hill could tell the young'uns about what happened in 1990 when the Democrats thought they'd raise oodles and boodles of money by putting a tax on luxury goods like yachts.
"Starting in 1991, Washington levied a 10 percent tax on cars valued above $30,000, boats above $100,000, jewelry and furs above $10,000 and private planes above $250,000. Democrats like Ted Kennedy and then-Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell crowed publicly about how the rich would finally be paying their fair share and privately about convincing President George H.W. Bush to renounce his 'no new taxes' pledge," the newspaper [Wall Street Journal] said in an editorial.

"But it wasn't long before even those die-hard class warriors noticed they'd badly missed their mark. The taxes took in $97 million less in their first year than had been projected — for the simple reason that people were buying a lot fewer of these goods. Boat building, a key industry in Messrs. Mitchell and Kennedy's home states of Maine and Massachusetts, was particularly hard hit. Yacht retailers reported a 77 percent drop in sales that year, while boat builders estimated layoffs at 25,000. With bipartisan support, all but the car tax was repealed in 1993, and in 1996 Congress voted to phase that out too. January 1 was disappearance day.
So what do you think will be the response of upper income people as they lose some of their tax deduction for charitable donations? That's right, they'll decrease their donations. And in these economically parlous times, is that really what we want to have happen? Charities are already reporting a drop in donations.
"The way the economy goes determines how charity goes," said Melissa Brown, associate director of research at the Center on Philanthropy at Indiana University in Indianapolis.

Total giving figures for last year will not be available until June, but "many charities are reporting lower income from donations," she said.

Surveys of the largest 100 United Ways in December and January suggest a decline of 2% to 5.6% in giving this year.

More than half of the United Ways - 58% - are expecting a drop this year, said Sally Fabens, a spokeswoman for the charity.

In addition, 82% are anticipating higher rates of uncollectible pledges, she said.
Perhaps the Democrats don't mind such a drop because they anticipate making up the shortfall with more government programs that they'll make by taxing the wealthy even more.

But they need to understand that they're never going to get enough money from squeezing the top earners. The Wall Street Journal explodes the faulty arithmetic behind such administration calculations.
Consider the IRS data for 2006, the most recent year that such tax data are available and a good year for the economy and "the wealthiest 2%." Roughly 3.8 million filers had adjusted gross incomes above $200,000 in 2006. (That's about 7% of all returns; the data aren't broken down at the $250,000 point.) These people paid about $522 billion in income taxes, or roughly 62% of all federal individual income receipts. The richest 1% -- about 1.65 million filers making above $388,806 -- paid some $408 billion, or 39.9% of all income tax revenues, while earning about 22% of all reported U.S. income.

Note that federal income taxes are already "progressive" with a 35% top marginal rate, and that Mr. Obama is (so far) proposing to raise it only to 39.6%, plus another two percentage points in hidden deduction phase-outs. He'd also raise capital gains and dividend rates, but those both yield far less revenue than the income tax. These combined increases won't come close to raising the hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue that Mr. Obama is going to need.

But let's not stop at a 42% top rate; as a thought experiment, let's go all the way. A tax policy that confiscated 100% of the taxable income of everyone in America earning over $500,000 in 2006 would only have given Congress an extra $1.3 trillion in revenue. That's less than half the 2006 federal budget of $2.7 trillion and looks tiny compared to the more than $4 trillion Congress will spend in fiscal 2010. Even taking every taxable "dime" of everyone earning more than $75,000 in 2006 would have barely yielded enough to cover that $4 trillion.
And that is not even accounting for the weakened economic picture today that translates into fewer taxpayers in that top bracket. And many of those people are those small business owners that politicians are always vowing to protect.
Mr. Obama is of course counting on an economic recovery. And he's also assuming along with the new liberal economic consensus that taxes don't matter to growth or job creation. The truth, though, is that they do. Small- and medium-sized businesses are the nation's primary employers, and lower individual tax rates have induced thousands of them to shift from filing under the corporate tax system to the individual system, often as limited liability companies or Subchapter S corporations. The Tax Foundation calculates that merely restoring the higher, Clinton-era tax rates on the top two brackets would hit 45% to 55% of small-business income, depending on how inclusively "small business" is defined. These owners will find a way to declare less taxable income.
So Obama is selling a pipe dream if he thinks he can fund all his new spending plans simply by cutting spending in Iraq and taxing the wealthy. And he's discounting how such policies work in the real world. Perhaps one of the breakout sessions of the next summit on fiscal spending could include a talk on incentives, tradeoffs, and unintended consequences.

24 comments:

Bachbone said...

Socialists have been searching for the magic formula to soak as many of as much as possible for as long as recorded history, but failed at every turn. This socialist administration will fail, too.

Having been self-employed for a number of years, I can tell you it's doesn't take a CPA to know when to ramp down operations to limit your taxes. If I were going to be paying Uncle Sam half my earnings (not including state and local taxes and other business costs), I would be sitting on my rear end at home most of the day, not working my tail off in the office for socialist causes.

davod said...

"That's right, they'll decrease their donations. And in these economically parlous times, is that really what we want to have happen? Charities are already reporting a drop in donations."

Betsy: This is a two fer for the ratbags. They already think government should do everything. So they not only get to complain that the rich ae mean because they donate less to charity, they get to replace th cahritiues with government programs.

Zen said...

excellent post. that tax increase on just 5% of Americans is going to have to be a doozy to cover the amount of spending Obango has planned.

Jaw Bone said...

"If I were going to be paying Uncle Sam half my earnings..."

Who is proposing that? First of all, the proposal is to reinstate the top two Clinton-era tax rates of 36 percent and 39.6 percent, up from the 33 percent and 35 percent the richest Americans now pay.

Second, this 39.6% rate only applies to the richest Americans, not the hourly paid like yourself. (And before you get testy, let me remind you, you do bill by the quarter hour).

Obama also proposes to stop the scheduled repeal of the estate tax next year, and to impose a 45 percent tax rate on a married couple’s estate valued at more than $7 million.

You'd have to be some kind of socialist to object to that increase.

Pat Patterson said...

Who knew that the left still read Henry George? If they ever actually read any economic texts at all. But notice the implied threat that if one complains too loudly about tax increases they should be groveling at the feet of Congress that the increases weren't even greater. AG Holder was wrong, we aren't cowards we're just ingrates that we aren't allowed to be taxes even more.

Bachbone said...

After eight years of the Left's over the top and neverending criticism of Bush and months of scurrilous lies about McCain and Palin, "Jaw Bone" says the Obamameister is going to swipe "only" 39.6% of my money, not 50%, and apparently expects me to be calmed. Uhhh, it's all my money. Just because Obama says he wants it doesn't mean he's entitled to it. He can't just click his red shoes and think he's back ward healing in Chicago or organizing for ACORN.

"Jaw Bone" has absolutely no idea what I do or did for a living, yet looks into his/her crystal ball and divines that I bill(ed) clients for services. Wrong! Your crystal ball must be as cloudy as Obama's "transparency."

The estate tax is an excellent example of politicians' grubby hands digging into pockets of taxpayers, who already pay the vast majority of our taxes, for funds to waste on their pet pork projects. In spite of objective example after example, progressives/socialists refuse to believe their eyes that these confiscatory tax rates do not achieve their goals. That's not ignorance; that's stupidity.

Bill B. said...

"Who knew that the left still read Henry George? If they ever actually read any economic texts at all."

That's a stunningly wild remark, given that the GOP policies have thrust us into the biggest recession since the great depression.

Come on, Pat. You know for a fact that the economy measured in per capita real dollars always does better with a Democrat in the White House, and this has been true since at least the time of Eisenhower.

You've seen the figures for job creation under the GOP failure president, compared with other administrations. So cut out the malarkey. The American people understand where GOP policies lead, and it ain't pretty. We're living the result.

Pat Patterson said...

I'm not sure what you are referring to by your statement except year in and year out the per capita income of Americans has gone up on the average of 1.6% and the greatest increase was under Reagan both in the GDP and per capita income.

But what I really know that since the Democrats took over both chambers the market has lost 50% of its value and the truly disturbing notation is that in the 5 weeks that Pres Obama has been in office the market has lost 35% of its value, housing prices and starts have continued to fall, unemployment is almost as high as the last time a Democrat was in the White House and after years of seeing the Federal debt decline it is now the largest as a percentage of GDP since World War II.

This baby may indeed be the responsibility of many fathers however it is in the lap of the president and the Democrats who haven't panicked yet but they seem to be having trouble sorting out what actually works from what they hope will work.

Jaw Bone said...

Sorry Bachbone, I thought you said you were a lawyer. I was referring to that.

By the way, what happened to good old fashioned patriotism, and good old fashioned responsibility?

America didn't just spring out of the ground fully-formed? It takes money, tax money to build roads, schools, bridges, infrastructure like that. It is your duty and responsibility to pay up without complaining.

And I'll remind you, even if you were paying half your income in taxes, that is a good bargain for living in a country like America.

If you want to live in a country with low or no taxes, I recommend you move to the capitalist, libertarian, regressive paradises of Afghanistan, Iraq, or Sudan. They have little to no central government, and little to no taxes. (Also little to no civilization).

Jerm said...

There are some major errors in this editorial - they used the table for itemized returns instead of all returns:
http://jermdemo.blogspot.com/2009/02/wsj-made-accounting-error.html

Jaw Bone said...

Sorry Pat. Republican policies are clearly recognized by the majority of Americans as leading directly to failure.

Many Americans remember 8 years of improving prosperity under President Clinton. We have all seen the results of 8 years of incompetence and maladministration under President Bush. Bush was handed the largest surplus ever known, and he recklessly threw it away and ran up massive debt.

You and the GOP just don't have any credibility on public financial matters, Pat. The GOP record speaks for itself.

Pat Patterson said...

Are you seriously arguing that the surplus that disappeared when the economy contracted after 9/11 was all Bush's fault? But Pres Bush did almost the same thing the chorus of Obama is singing now. Spend! I'm just wondering what the left's reaction would have been if Pres Bush had promised that as bad as things got after 9/11, a 7 1/2% drop in tax revenue, a tiny increase in GDP and much higher unemployment, that he was not going to spend that surplus and keep it in the Lincoln Bedroom.

equitus said...

Don't worry, Pat. Jaw and Bill are just regurgitating talking points. They don't really believe that stuff, but it's their job to keep spouting them over and over and over again until weaker minds start to believe them.

Except that part where Jaw says we should be grateful that we have the privy of giving half our money to the government. I think he actually feels that way.

Hank said...

Bill B.
regarding: "That's a stunningly wild remark, given that the GOP policies have thrust us into the biggest recession since the great depression."

I'm open to your point of view.
But I could use some details.
What policies are you talking about? And please, don't just say the magic word "deregulation".

What GOP policies led to where we are today?

Jaw Bone said...

Pat asserts "year in and year out the per capita income of Americans has gone up on the average of 1.6%"

Possibly so. But there are very interesting differences between different administrations.

"...and the greatest increase was under Reagan both in the GDP and per capita income."

No. That's flat out wrong. The best you can say about Reagan is that he grew real per capita GDP almost as much as Clinton did.

The raw numbers are here:
http://tinyurl.com/dcjnst
They come straight from the BEA tables.

The pretty chart is here:
http://tinyurl.com/dau3co

The conclusion is inescapable: if you care about economic growth and avoiding recessions, America is MUCH better off with a Democrat in the White House.

If you care about very rich people paying slightly lower taxes, then vote republican, and be prepared for less growth and more time in recession.


I've rarely seen it spelled out so clearly as in the links above. I eagerly anticipate Pat's fancy jive as he tries to cast doubt on the hard numbers and facts.

Mr Bikes said...

These numbers are also very insightful when discussing the lessons that some economists have missed:

http://tinyurl.com/ablfq9

Pat Patterson said...

No shuckin' or jivin' just simple division to get to the percentage increase based on the first link. GDP per capita rose 18% under Reagan and close but no cigar 17% under Clinton. But the greatest increase was during the combined JFK/LBJ administrations where, because of the huge tax cuts both in marginal and capital rates the GDP per capita rose by 24%.

And Clinton's increase came mostly after 1994 when two things occurred. The Republicans captured both chambers and marginal rates were cut again. Thanks for the link!

Bachbone said...

Unlike Joe Biden, I don't equate "patriotism" with paying high taxes, "Jaw Bone." Nor do I equate, like Obama, "spreading the wealth" with being good for everybody. It's my "...duty and responsibility to pay up without complaining"? Uhhh, whatever happened to, "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, 'WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEBATE AND DISAGREE WITH ANY ADMINISTRATION!'” That was all right for Hillary Clinton and liberals, but not for conservatives, eh?

There has been plenty of criticism by Betsy and conservative commenters of Bush's economic policies and his growth of government as well as Obama's policies, unlike leftists here who see nothing except incarnate evil in Bush and the messiah's second coming in Obama. Conservatives here have criticized both presidents and both parties for hysterically and cynically ramming through Congress billions in spending with literally no debate, and now, no "transparency" or even reading the bills.

Perhaps I should have been like Hollyweird "stars" and threatened to leave the country if Obama were elected? It was clear to me from his background and words during campaigning that he is a socialist. But that would be a coward's way. I'll stay and fight to return Congress, and eventually the presidency, to sanity and fiscal responsibility. At the rate Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Holder, Frank and Geithner are running the train off the tracks, it shouldn't take them more than a few years, at most, to alienate even the useful idiots "Magic Mouth" Obama was able to con before.

Jaw Bone said...

Pat claims "No shuckin' or jivin' just simple division to get to the percentage increase based on the first link. GDP per capita rose 18% under Reagan and close but no cigar 17% under Clinton."

So, you want to fool the gullible by not correcting for inflation?

Too bad, Pat. I'm calling you on it. Since at least the time of President Eisenhower the economy measured in per capita real dollars does better with a Democrat in the White House

Pat Patterson said...

I used the figures you supplied which are adjusted for inflation. Now you don't like the number as well as when genuflecting earlier? Or are you saying that the original BEA numbers don't make that adjustment? Are you really that dishonest?

What the numbers really show is that almost regardless of the administration since World War II whenever there are broad based marginal and capital tax cuts the economy reponds. A hatred of Reagan or Bush may be satisfying but really doesn't cloud what works and what doesn't work. BTW all caps does not make the argument stronger when the very numbers you drew attention to show that tax cuts work and tax hikes don't.

Plus isn't there the tiniest caveat considering how much GDP is sinking with a Democrat in the WH?

amr said...

Is eveyone forgetting this: According to the company software Mr. Geithner could not understand, Turbo Tax states that the income tax rates will reset to the 2001 rates; 15%, 27.5%, 30.5%, 35.5% and 39.6%. President Obama said he would allow them to reset. Presently they are 10%, 15%, 25%, 28%, 33% and 35%. And look at the impact on the poorest Americans; the special low 10 percent bracket is eliminated. So not just those over $250,000 will pay more because of their loss of mortgage deduction, charity deductions and the increased tax rates proposed for them next year, but all Americans who pay taxes will be impacted by this return to the 2001tax rates as well as indirectly by the carbon cap taxes. I also imagine that some of those now not paying taxes, again the poorest Americans, will have to pay taxes since the Bush tax cuts raised the amount earned exempt from taxation. Plus they, I assume, would not receive money from the “negative income tax” program. A double hit for some lower wage earners.

DCE said...

Jawbone,

It is true that the economy has generally done better with a Democrat in the White House, but you've forgotten the other half of that equation:

Congress was in the hands of the GOP.

Whenever one party has had control of Congress and the White House it's been bad for the economy and the taxpayers.

Jaw Bone said...

Can you point out the numbers to me in that BEA spreadsheet, please Pat?

What I am seeing there, is that under Clinton, real GDP per capita rose 2.49% each year.

Under Reagan, it was less, 2.45% per year. So you are wrong. The greatest increase in GDP was not under Reagan. Reagan had a record that was barely better than Carter.

However, all three of them did better than any other Repub administration, though not as well as the record-setting Democratic record.

If you want the best economy, elect a democratic president - it's based on the track record of the last 50 years. If you want to lose jobs and have poor growth - elect a Repub. Just as we have seen in the last 8 years.

Pat Patterson said...

Simple, just use the figures on the chart and figure out the percentage increase between the last year of the previous administration and the last year of the succeeding one. Plus using straight dollar amounts is ingenious but only works if one is happy with a big increase of a smaller GDP or a smaller increase of a much bigger GDP. Which would you prefer, 10% of $1 trillion or 8% of $1.5 trillion?

Only a Democrat or that hypothetical Henry George reader would be happy with the higher percentage.